Post Censorship

[sHonhSin]

I have to ask this. What is going on in these forums. I see when admins check posts, they edit or delete silly things, or things they personally don't agree with. But when there are posts by certain people, nothing is done. I am refering to posts made by MovingTarget recently.
Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against him personally. What annoys me is that the language he uses seems to be totally acceptable to the Admins & is therefore not edited. When the topic gets out of hand, the admins close the topic, but yet none of the cursing, flaming or anything is edited. I think it would be wise to delete the topics( at the very least) if you refuse to manage the topic properly. I have had posts deleted when questioning an admin & done quite pleasantly at that. SO why the hell are certain peoples posts allowed to go unchecked?
THIS IS WRONG. :scratch:

[jimeuro]

It seems Movingtarget seems to get away with quite alot not just on these forums. I mean things like people he says he has videos of them cheating, getting banned. Now I know this is a commen occurance and people do end up with a 2 maybe 3 week ban for cheating /glitching but when this guy mentions it to a 'mate'(also an admin) they seem to instantly have no access to socom. Another thing why is it he can make racist comments to italian players but nothing is done about it??
It seems this guy is untouchable and hence the reason he is an arrogant ****e. Shame really coz I kinda liked him to start with but its amazing how quickly your opinions can change when you read his comments on FsK forums.
Ill also put money on this reply getting edited or banned!!! :sobbing:

[Freeky]

sHonhSin, you raise a great point mate! I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice this.

I don't use these forums much and only occasionally come to have a look, but all I usually see are posts which start of normal and then turn into a bunch of ********s arguing.

[<SBD>Values]

Let me test the theory.

-EDITED- CENSOR BYPASSING - MALBORO ;)

[Malboro]

Values I have edited your post ;)

[hugecool]

lmao, what was in it?

[Freeky]

Let me test the theory.

-EDITED- CENSOR BYPASSING - MALBORO ;)

lol... well what do ya know... your theory is sopt on! :biggrin:

[PoiSoNArroW]

I peronally think there should be bans for people using to much heavy language *cough* Moving Traget *cough* :biggrin:

[Malboro]

There is bans for censor bypassing, and there is bans for offensive comments.

5. No Offensive Comments. Racist, sexist, ****phobic or other demeaning types of comments are unacceptable.

Occasional swearing is OK. As long as you do not by pass the censors to get your point across, because thats just bad, we all know what you mean when the * appear and we can put it into context.

[ELJUICY]

Malboro said **** :(

[RICHDUDE]

swearing shouldn't be too much of an issue, socom is an over 16 game so all the people using the forums are over 16, right :liar:

[ltMAKAVELI]

well if you wanna get all technical there is no such things as swear words they just really are words not used in conetc i.e he is ****ing a dog... that would not count as swearing since im useing the world in context with proper meaning...

[Malboro]

Malboro said **** :(

No Polira said that I just copied and pasted ;)

Moved to General Discussion

[Freeky]

**** off u sad ****ing ****... you **** little hemeroid licking tosser... stay the **** out of discussions... if anyone knows where the little **** lives... I will ****ing lodge a brick sideways up his arse!... am seriously going to beat the **** out of you ****ing ****!... time to ****ing visit you.

...don't you think it's time to update your word censors?? Ok SOCOM is rated 16+ but I don't read anywhere that the GameBattles website and forums are. Swearing is one thing, but straight out abuse and threats is another.

Take some action PLEASE!

[Malboro]

Location of that post please. :s

We don't have control the word censors, e-mail one of the GM's about that.

[Freeky]

Well if you can't control the word censors, then please use some initiative and close/delete the posts which are blatantly abusive and offensive.

I made a post yesterday about what I thought was crap about SOCOM (with no offensive language) and it was deleted, yet MovingTarget fills his posts with threats and abuse and they are just ignored.

Get a grip Mods... it's time to take notice of what other people think.

[NiSm0]

Freeky that post sucked big time sooo no wonder it got deleted!

[glass]

There is a little button on the right that Reports Bad Posts.... USE IT! if its causing so much offense.. moderators aint on the forums 24/7 and dont always look at every post...
by the way the button it a little warning sign with a l shape in it

[sHonhSin]

I don't believe what I am ****ing reading. I get decent ****ing posts deleted because I question the total bull**** bias actions of an admin & I do it in a very pleasant, coherant & diplomatic manner. Yet when this sort of crap happens, the admin has his god-damn hands tied?
WHAT?
That is an utter sack of ****e. You don't have to be on 24/7. Are you seriously trying to goad us into believing that you people never saw any of those posts? Yeah right.
I am not on these forums 24/7. I visit maybe once a day & I manage to see these posts VERY easily. Are you sure your browser is going to the right address? Maybe you used a 2nd class stamp. Give us a break. People here are far from stupid & some are old enough to know a schoolboy's excuse when he hears it.
"My dog ate my editing ability".
Don't try & by-pass the censors? What censors? This just makes me sick.
It says to me that the GB admins are biased & allow their friends to delete, edit, ban or get away with what ever they like.
The only word that has been removed from being classed as a curse word is "bastard". Read your dictionary & discover for yourself which of them is in there. Why would bastard be the only one in there? Because the rest are not "proper" terms & thus classed as cursing. :banned:

[SlayerX]

wow someone has a case of the Mundays hahah

[NiSm0]

Why always the admins ..... blame mods like slayer!

:P

[Freeky]

Freeky that post sucked big time sooo no wonder it got deleted!

Well if you cared to read and understand my post properly then you might have realised it was about encouraging people to have a better experience playing SOCOM by simply ignoring all the crappy things about it... like I've started doing.

IMO that's got more validity than a lot of the posts that seem to evade the Mod's delete button.

[NiSm0]

I didnt see it like that... i saw it like a bunch of crap against a crappy game... to provoke people to flame your ass of...

[sHonhSin]

Why always the admins ..... blame mods like slayer!

:P


Slayer is a waste of time. He is a complete idiot who has the IQ of a sea-slug (IMO)
He once deleted the SEF account over a match that was in dispute & had a ticket sent in for it. He then began to tell lies to justify his actions & said we needed proof of the problems in the match. Yet HE could not prove all the lies he was making up.Yet when I make a decent post on these forums asking why all this happened, guess what happened. You've got it...they deleted the ****ing post to ensure no one else saw it.

As for not seeing posts the way they are meant...well, maybe you will now understand the reason for my very long posts. I try to explain myself to my fullest so no one will take it the wrong way. Does'nt always work & cannot always work.

All the Admins & Mods are responsible for the GB forums & how the tournaments are handled. If one knows something the other does'nt then it is his/her responsibility to inform them. I'm curious to know what age the Admins/Mods are, because they seriously strike me as being teenagers with all the failings that go with them.

[Freeky]

I didnt see it like that... i saw it like a bunch of crap against a crappy game... to provoke people to flame your ass of...

Actually I never mentioned anything about a crappy game. SOCOM is actually a very good game. It was about all the crap you have to put up with before you can see it as a good game. There's nothing other than truth in that.

And the way I see it... on these forums people will 'flame your ass off' regardless of what you write.

[NiSm0]

Slayer is a waste of time. He is a complete idiot who has the IQ of a sea-slug (IMO)
He once deleted the SEF account over a match that was in dispute & had a ticket sent in for it. He then began to tell lies to justify his actions & said we needed proof of the problems in the match. Yet HE could not prove all the lies he was making up.Yet when I make a decent post on these forums asking why all this happened, guess what happened. You've got it...they deleted the ****ing post to ensure no one else saw it.

As for not seeing posts the way they are meant...well, maybe you will now understand the reason for my very long posts. I try to explain myself to my fullest so no one will take it the wrong way. Does'nt always work & cannot always work.

All the Admins & Mods are responsible for the GB forums & how the tournaments are handled. If one knows something the other does'nt then it is his/her responsibility to inform them. I'm curious to know what age the Admins/Mods are, because they seriously strike me as being teenagers with all the failings that go with them.
You dont know what youre writing... slayer x is one of the most honest GB staff members!!
I dont beleive he would lie to you.
And for the age: im 20 dunno about the rest though...

[Freeky]

Slayer is a waste of time. He is a complete idiot who has the IQ of a sea-slug (IMO)

I have to disagree with that and you should be ashamed of that comment!

During my brief encounter as a GB Admin I saw Slayer doing a hell of a lot of work to keep the ladder running as smooth as possible. If anyone experienced the volume of tickets from pathetic moaners that are submitted every day they would realise the hard work that goes into being a ladder Admin. It's almost not worth being an Admin for, but some people stick at it in order to make the ladder exist... with very little appreciation from the people who use it I might add.

[SlayerX]

I appreciate those who stuck up for me but im past caring what users think of me here at GB i have worked so hard on this site for nearly a year now and what Shon says is from what i remember a load of crap. He says i have a low IQ wow that hurt me so much you e-thug me e-feelings are so hurt!

Anyway the users generaly dont have a clue what happends behind the scenes all the admin i have worked with are very hard working and deserve credit working for free and under pressure from moaning Socom 2 players answering tickets all the time.

sHonhSin who ever you maybe staff bashing on the forum isnt tolerated anymore and i wont hesitate to ban you,and no this isnt me being corrupt but the staff here deserve more respect from the users something you clearly no nothing about!

[glass]

I love europeans for the reason of the above posts... POINTLESS

[hugecool]

slayerx....i think the time to smite shonshin has come...

[NiSm0]

So lets all go on with our lives... AND i DONT wanna see any UNHAPPY faceses!! OK!!!!!!!

So i think this thread has come to an end for now..... good bye guys ill miss you till the next thread~!

[Malboro]

I'm curious to know what age the Admins/Mods are, because they seriously strike me as being teenagers with all the failings that go with them.U am 16, but not shy of that, as I feel that I am capable of being an admin to the EU ladders and moderator of a forum, It is not age that matters, its the maturity of the admin, and all of the ones I have worked with are definatly capable of doing the job, we know what we are doing, we follow the rules in all situations, but at the end of the day it is always going to be a bad desicion for one clan, as for the posts deleted, I only delete ones that actually need deleting, i.e. heavy flaming, else I just lock the thread, which I think is reasonable in some of the situations.

Yes I probably could do the job better, but there is always people *****ing about how bad we do, but never giving us credit for the good things we do, and never telling us how we can improve.

But as SlayerX mentioned we do it free, we are helping run a ladder which (hopefully) will give you some fun, and a forum which would give you a good place to talk about the ladder, but I have seen people abuse it, with heavy flaming, calling Gamebattles corrupt and calling on cheats, if you are that worried about the Gamebattles Staff not doing their job correctly send a ticket and that staff member would be talked to and advised on how to do their job (we do talk) and only with your feedback can we make Gamebattles a better and more fun place to be.

Malboro

[hugecool]

too long to read but ur prolly right marlboro ^^

[Fluofish]

I'm curious to know what age the Admins/Mods are, because they seriously strike me as being teenagers with all the failings that go with them.

a) I am 22 going on 23 in december

b) We are all human, so yes we have failings, our decisions cannot be 100% correct all the time. Choices have to be made and we do consult eachother if needed

c) I for one have no "buddies" on this forum who I allow to do everything they want to, so no-one gets away with everything with me.

d)If someone gets banned or suspended by me, they deserved it, I hate banning/suspending people, but if it needs to be done I'll do it.

e) If you find a post that offends you, report it. Just don't report when you just feel like reporting someone, abuse will be punished.

f) I hardly believe that any of the mods will edit/remove/lock something without good reason. We don't mod to get our kicks, we mod because we like this place. We are still users of this forum, not a bunch of people that go hired to just mod.

g) We as staff cannot do as we want either, our actions are also being watched.

[sHonhSin]

You dont know what youre writing... slayer x is one of the most honest GB staff members!!
I dont beleive he would lie to you.
And for the age: im 20 dunno about the rest though...

The lies? Stating that ...
(1) SEF had 2 warnings previously against them. They had none. SEF almost had one for a member giving a ref abuse even when the ref was on SEF's side...the member got booted straight away & SEF avoided the warning.

(2) Saying that SEF cheated. Not one member of SEF ever glitched or cheated at any time while in the clan. If they did then they would have been booted straight away. The worst the clan had was me. I *****ed constantly because of the lag & still do.

And why did he send posts into the SEF site instead of emailing the leader with any problems he had with the ticket or the clan.
Where was his proof of the things he said?

To make matters worse...he didn't even remember that he deleted the account. He must have given the matter lots of thought.
I mention age because, only teenagers would believe that certain types of behaviour & language are acceptable in a public forum. Do you not forget that this type of thing is inappropriate for some people? Write a ticket of complaint? Do you honestly believe that people as young as 12-14 would know how to do this? And more to the point, would they care? No...but their legal gardians would & as admins you have the responsiblity to care for the content of the forums & moderate them in a mature manner.

Ok, I agree, you are doing this free & on your own time....something I mentioned ages ago, & I'm sure many are grateful for that fact. But you must take responsibilty seriously & moderate the forums content. Or at the very least you must ensure the site is only accessible to those over 16. Its common sense.

Now I apologise for any offense caused (except to SlayerX...I'm still pissed off with him) but something had to be said. If you want an example...look at any other games forums.....do you think your posts would avoid censorship? No chance.

[Freeky]

(1) SEF had 2 warnings previously against them. They had none. SEF almost had one for a member giving a ref abuse even when the ref was on SEF's side...the member got booted straight away & SEF avoided the warning.

Have you never failed to report a loss within 3 hours of playing a match? Because that's an automatic warning if the other clan submits a ticket complaining about the non report. It's just a thought... but those might be the other warnings you didn't know about.

[SlayerX]

Ok so because i seriously have no recollection of what happend it was a long time ago and when your doing like 200 tickets a week like i was when i use to be very active then how can i be expected to remeber everything i did ?

I dont want an apology because i couldnt care less what you think of me, its a game at the end of the day and i always did what was required of me and more i have put so many hours into been an admin that i had to quit simply because i was not having time to have a life if you must know im no Kid im 22 just gone.

Do you know how many hours i spent with people on MSN they use to msn me everyday asking me questions, seeing if i could resolve a problem and even ref games which wasnt my job but do you know what i use to say i said Yes because im that kind of person who use to help out anyone i could and i even spent many hours helping some clans that had maybe an unfair trial before get clans back.

If my memory serves me right the clan you maybe reffering to could be the clan Lato deleted not me simply because it was there 3rd and final warning but like i said how am i expected to know a clan when i havent played the game much in the last 6 months and havent been an admin for just as long?

[sHonhSin]

When Switzy was the leader of SEF the 1st thing he did was report the loss straight after a match. When he left Vanderman took over and we had 1 match under him. Now 3 warnings? I don't think so.
We only ever sent in one ticket to my knowledge over a disputed match & that was the final one. The one that supposedly got us the so-called 3rd warning. Now, I was lead to understand that you cannot receive a warning & no points are awarded/deducted when a ticket is sent in over a disputed match.

Do you not see my point? Even IF SEF had 2 warnings the 3rd was totally unfair. SEF never to my knowledge ever recieved any warnings. We played by the book & reported losses in good time when they came.

Now as for the lies, where do you get off accusing SEF of being cheats. We were probably one of the most fair clans out there, that despised cheats of any sort. I was the worst of the clan & all I do is ***** about things...I hate cheats. Are you denying saying to Vanderman that we were well known cheats? Are you denying saying there was proof of us cheating?

Reguarding of what you just said, to me that means nothing. Ok, you are over stretched & doing your best...I can accept. To say that you are the nicest person you know means bugger all to me. I don't know you. The facts are that the SEF account was deleted unjustly & lies were provided as reason for the deletion.

Yes it is only a game. But a game is to be enjoyed, which is impossible with cheats & people who delete a decent clans account for no just cause & using lies to cover a poor decision.
As for the time frame, SEF were deleted when you were still an admin. Add to that, the fact when I made posts to question what happened, the posts get deleted. DELETED. Yet, posts made by people like MovingTarget remain uncensored even when the topic is closed.

[SlayerX]

ok im lost who said you cheat ? and why are you still moaning about it ? this was so long ago nothing can be done now and im not lying why would i lie what would i gain from lying im getting really fed up of the abuse i get im not even an admin anymore and havent been for months one of the reasons i quit was due to every decsion i made there was always a winner and a loser and when u get abusive emails and msn messages just because teams got caught breaking the rules that blows.

If this clan was such a big deal why bring this up now? this inceident must of been months ago since i havent been a Socom 2 admin since somertime in June if you have a complain to make about me take it to Krekko or Polira if you want im past caring about all these things you say i did when i know for a fact i never once broke an admin rule and all my decsions were fair and if there was ever one i was unsure of i would of reffered it to someone like Krekko and Lato

I seriously dont know where i said you were cheats so dont care for you saying i called you cheats you clearly dont read my posts correctly

[Fluofish]

Ok, everyone had its chance to voice his or her opinion. For further problems concerning Mods or Admins, please contact Krekko, MrPink and whoever is in charge of the Admins.

This whole thread seems to be created because of a problem between SlayerX and sHonhSin, I believe that if needed it can be discussed privately.

Anyway, I lock this topic.

[glass]

Just to clear things up about the actual post topic....

Just spoke with polira about this... heres the response i got...

For example **** and **** arent racist/prejudice words
im not here to censor people
im only trying to keep people from feeling hated on

So your posts wont be censored unless it is at the moderators discression...