9/30 Debate Thread

[GHawk]

What: First presidential debate, John Kerry vs George Bush
When : Thursday, September 30 9:00 p.m. ET.
Where: University of Miami Coral Gables, FL
Thursday, September 30
Channel: Pretty much any major news channel, others. ABC, CNN, Fox News, CSPAN, MSNBC, ect.

Lets keep the stuff from the debate from tonight in 1 thread, ok?

Predictions on amount of times "medal" "vietnam" "purple heart" mentioned: 73
Predictions on amount of times "9/11" "homeland security" "terrorists" mentioned: 64
Prediction of amount of times "saddam" "iraq" "wmd" "insurgents" mentioned: 82

[Plucky]

I dont think vietnam will be a discussion at all. I think iraq and Bin Laden will be the bulk of the debate. Such as what kerry plans to do with iraq rather than just saying UN will help us.

[Molecular]

How many times do you think Bush mentions god?

[Husker]

How many times do you think Bush mentions god?

7 .

[GHawk]

7 .
i assume you are only counting the first 5 minutes?

As for the entire thing: Bush will mention god approximately 32.6 times.

[Husker]

Wait, I'm voting 8 because he will say God bless america at the end.

[pointblank510]

yeah i was guessing 30

[Vega]

They're not allowed to say the word "Vietnam"

[pointblank510]

They're not allowed to say the word "Vietnam"

hahahaha

[Vega]

http://www.newyorker.com/shouts/content/?041004sh_shouts
Neither candidate shall mention the word “Vietnam.” In the event that either candidate utters said word in the course of a debate, the debate shall be concluded immediately and declared forfeit to the third-party candidate.

[Plucky]

Vega I need to talk to you on aim, get on now!

Bush I think will win the debate because Bush seems to be the better speaker.

[Husker]

Vega I need to talk to you on aim, get on now!

Bush I think will win the debate because Bush seems to be the better speaker.

he isn't a better speaker, but he does have better speech writers.

[WHITEFLASH]

im gonna have to go with Kerry on this one based on his experience on the Yale debate team

[FlApJaCkErS]

it is a proven fact that debates never help the current president plus john kerry is known for delivering a knockout punch at the end of debates....i think it should be interesting to see 2 ****** candidates go at it.

[Wankee]

http://www.dailycardinal.com/global_user_elements/printpage.cfm?storyid=736865

Gonna have lots of fun tonight.

[[PK]Richy]

http://www.dailycardinal.com/global_user_elements/printpage.cfm?storyid=736865

Gonna have lots of fun tonight.

Haha that's awesome.

[GHawk]

for anyone who wants to watch it streamed, or can't watch on tv for whatever reason- http://www.c-span.org/


I'm watching it on Cspan the channel, myself.

[MadDigital]

for anyone who wants to watch it streamed, or can't watch on tv for whatever reason- http://www.c-span.org/


I'm watching it on Cspan the channel, myself.

It would be pretty hard to miss it, considering its on 11 channels :lol:

Should be good though.

[pAiN]

I'm definitely looking forward to the debates.

[knox]

Just turned it on.

[English_Warlords]

I am glad Kerry got his tan in a can, and his nails done tonight. I think those two factors will jusat stun the aduience to want him to keep going.

[Husker]

AHAHAHHA, Bush has already done like everything, everything wrong. lol.

[GHawk]

the american people dont like my descions, but hey, they know what they are! Jesus, Bush has came out terrible. Rambling, using all his typical keywords. hes all over the place

[Bright Eyes]

Bush just said a word I've never heard... fercifiously... or something like that.

[Acidman]

I just turned it on.

[JKiNG]

http://www.dailycardinal.com/global_user_elements/printpage.cfm?storyid=736865

Gonna have lots of fun tonight.
Thats hot, So far I think Bush is gettin owned.

[Plucky]

Kerry is doing pretty well. Although it seems bush realizes the threat more than kerry.

[GHawk]

RAMBLING BUSH. Dat uh... welll.... pause.... uh....i mean uh..

[motoxxxracer096]

i think kerry is much smarter than bush...

[JL4788]

i think kerry is much smarter than bush...

The whole USA thinks this

[GHawk]

Kerry is ripping Bush apart right now... keep it up

[JKiNG]

Bush is mad he knows Kerry is owning him! LMFAO Just look as his expression.

[dotGerd]

Cnn Broke The Rooooooooles

[Vega]

What message does that send our allies? The same allies that have never supported us in the war in Iraq?

[LoNgHoRn]

kerry is such a idiot dude he jus said one thing and denied it a minute later wtf VOTE BUSH ***S

[JKiNG]

Cnn Broke The Rooooooooles
What rule?

[dotGerd]

the networks arent supposed to show reaction shots, meaning they're not supposed to show the candidate that isnt speaking. however no network signed the rules so they really dont have to follow them.

[knox]

kerry is such a idiot dude he jus said one thing and denied it a minute later wtf VOTE BUSH ***S

:eh:

[JKiNG]

Damn What he just said Around 9:20 bout Bush putting Firehouse in Iraq n shutting down some here is f*** up. Also bout not fixing the US and having to shut down subways and shyt. Gooo Kerry You own BUSH!

[JKiNG]

the networks arent supposed to show reaction shots, meaning they're not supposed to show the candidate that isnt speaking. however no network signed the rules so they really dont have to follow them.
Then no1 has broken the rule keep doing it, I'm enjoying Bush's face while Kerry talks.

Edit:
In other words Bush is gettin owned and mad and making expressions lol.

[Bright Eyes]

Im watching it on NBC, and theyve been doing split-screen shots half the time showing reaction shots.

Bush: "thats like... a huge tax gap. but thats for another debate."

[GHawk]

Bush looks like hes clueless. did he just not prepare at all? honest question, im not trying to flame. He looks lost out there.

[JKiNG]

Are they going to give commercials?

[GHawk]

Let me... f-f-f-irst... tell... you..."

[Plucky]

It seems kerry is pulling alot of stuff out of his ass. I think if bush could word things better he would be winning.

[Husker]

Dude, turn to CSPAN if you want to se them both the whole time.

[Bright Eyes]

Kerry: sure we can change the rules

[JKiNG]

Let me... f-f-f-irst... tell... you..."
ooooh I know who that is, Its BUSH lol. What just happen Bush spoke out of turn? Whats the box under the mic? Diff colors. Green means they can speak red no?

[Acidman]

He keeps saying I believe.

[dotGerd]

they said vietnam so that quote someone posted was obviously wrong

[LoNgHoRn]

Bush > Kerry enough said.

[sharpsh0t]

Kerry keep jumping fences please

[dotGerd]

ooooh I know who that is, Its BUSH lol. What just happen Bush spoke out of turn? Whats the box under the mic? Diff colors. Green means they can speak red no?
green: thirty seconds left
yello: fifteen seconds left
red: five seconds left
flashing red: over time limit

[Acidman]

they said vietnam so that quote someone posted was obviously wrong

I know, I was about to say. CHEEtah.

[JKiNG]

green: thirty seconds left
yello: fifteen seconds left
red: five seconds left
flashing red: over time limit
Thxs

Bush Going to Lose,
J-KiNG

[loserfreak69]

Go BUSHYPOO

[Husker]

Shut the **** up LongHorn, you're a ***got.


And no Jking you are wrong.

Green means you have 30 seconds, red means 15, then darker red means 5 secconds.

[Vega]

they said vietnam so that quote someone posted was obviously wrong

Yeah, I know. I guess my link was BS :(

[JKiNG]

Shut the **** up LongHorn, you're a ***got.


And no Jking you are wrong.

Green means you have 30 seconds, red means 15, then darker red means 5 secconds.
Wait wait wait how am I wrong when I was asking what it ment you mean dotgert is wrong lol.

[LoNgHoRn]

husker your like 12 you have no idea what your talking about.

[Bright Eyes]

Bush > Kerry enough said.

Very profound statement followed by great reasoning, citing examples from the debate that is currently going on, which is what this thread is about.

[Plucky]

Seems like bush is starting to get it in gear.

[dotGerd]

its actually yellow and red, not red and dark red but they're showing up red and dark red...

[Husker]

husker your like 12 you have no idea what your talking about.

I know much more than you Longhorn.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

i think bush is rockin ' kerry's socks, we'll see who you guys think won afterwords though!

[JKiNG]

Bush is stupid why would we train them?

[JKiNG]

i think bush is rockin ' kerry's socks, we'll see who you guys think won afterwords though!
I think opposite of what you think :lol:

[[PK]Richy]

Kerry is a second guesser. He said he felt the same way Bush did at the time about Hussein. What a hoax. These guys both suck. Vote Badnarik.

[Husker]

Richy']Kerry is a second guesser. He said he felt the same way Bush did at the time about Hussein. What a hoax. These guys both suck. Vote Badnarik.

[GHawk]

Richy']Kerry is a second guesser. He said he felt the same way Bush did at the time about Hussein. What a hoax. These guys both suck. Vote Badnarik.
Kerry is sure as hell kicking bush's ass right now. I'd take Badnarik first, but Kerry's way ahead of Bush

[JKiNG]

Yea Bush lied to america bout the bombs and the nuclear stuff...Kerry is right why would the President lie to us? Why?

[[PK]Richy]

Is that a typo or signifying agreeance?

Edit: ^ To Husker.

[JC]

George Glittering Generalities Bush

[Husker]

Richy']Is that a typo or signifying agreeance?

Edit: ^ To Husker.

signifying agreeance.

[LoNgHoRn]

bush is finally gettin it together, why train iraq? if we didnt they would just let ppl blow things up all the time like whats going on now they need control over people.

[[PK]Richy]

I think Bush is catching up now. He's kinda showing Kerry for the second-guesser he is. Though I hate each of some of their policies.

[just]

Bush is making himself look like a complete moron...he doesnt know what the hell hes talking about..he just rambles to take off time...what a tard

[JKiNG]

I bet that lady wont vote for bush even though he said her name on National TV. Bcuz she knos her husband wouldnt have died over there if it wasn't bcuz of him. My opinion

[Noochsta]

F-f-f-freedom. :doh:

[Plucky]

This question is a very difficult one. Yeah kerry is doing all these politican promises, and I dont think he can do them all while funding a war.

[LoNgHoRn]

Bush is making himself look like a complete moron...he doesnt know what the hell hes talking about..he just rambles to take off time...what a tard

you must not be watching idiot.

[Vega]

Kerry is avoiding the word Vietnam right now, and I don't think he ever said it earlier.

[[PK]Richy]

I'm waiting for Bush to just scream out "WIPE THAT ****ING SMILE OFF YOUR FACE JACKASS" and the whole crowd let's out a gasp in suprise as Bush calmly shrugs it off and returns to his podium.

[JKiNG]

bush is finally gettin it together, why train iraq? if we didnt they would just let ppl blow things up all the time like whats going on now they need control over people.
You are right but how bout if we train them a lil too much. I think we should train them the basics.

[GHawk]

this just in- Bush's notepad, from a secret camera:
http://playstationhq.net/stuff/images/bushnotes.jpg




(i sincerely hope you guys can take a joke.)

[[PK]Richy]

this just in- Bush's notepad, from a secret camera:
http://playstationhq.net/stuff/images/bushnotes.jpg




(i sincerely hope you guys can take a joke.)

LOL!

[Vega]

ROFL, that blank stare was awesome.

[stanMARSH]

I'm susposed to be answering questions on a worksheet for school about the debate... **** that, my teacher's lucky my channel is even on the debate. If i could vote I might care but since I can't vote I have no say so in who gets elected, it doesn't matter to me what either of them says.

[LoNgHoRn]

You are right but how bout if we train them a lil too much. I think we should train them the basics.

it takes time to train man, and u have to realize how many people are over there and how many dont speak english.

[Bright Eyes]

****ing christ, how many goddamn ****ing times is Bush going to mention Kerry "switching sides" in completely unrelated ****ing questions, arghhhhhhh.

[Noochsta]

LMAO, nice GHawk.

[JKiNG]

Richy']I'm waiting for Bush to just scream out "WIPE THAT ****ING SMILE OFF YOUR FACE JACKASS" and the whole crowd let's out a gasp in suprise as Bush calmly shrugs it off and returns to his podium.
They aren't allowed to leave the podium, is the rules. It would be funny if bush walks over n they start to Fight.

[Husker]

you must not be watching idiot.

more like you must not be.

[[PK]Richy]

****ing christ, how many goddamn ****ing times is Bush going to mention Kerry "switching sides" in completely unrelated ****ing questions, arghhhhhhh.

Bright Eyes: Hey guys let's go invade Iraq

Me: Cool! Great Idea!

*2 years later the whole thing backfires*

Me: Horrible Idea! What kind of leader would DO THIS?

Get the **** out of here. I can see the bull**** in Kerry's teeth from here.

[JKiNG]

this just in- Bush's notepad, from a secret camera:
http://playstationhq.net/stuff/images/bushnotes.jpg




(i sincerely hope you guys can take a joke.)
I agree, matter fact I havnt even seen him write sumthing.

[JC]

George Glittering Generalities Bush

LOLOLOL JC YOUR SO FUNNY!

[Bright Eyes]

Richy']Bright Eyes: Hey guys let's go invade Iraq

Me: Cool! Great Idea!

*2 years later the whole thing backfires*

Me: Horrible Idea! What kind of leader would DO THIS?

Get the **** out of here. I can see the bull**** in Kerry's teeth from here.

Kerry said he voted for going into Iraq, because Bush said he was going to go through certain steps before doing so, like setting up a good plan for going in, getting the job done, and an exit strategy, WITH a coalition including support from the UN. That didnt happen, that is why Kerry now says it was a bad idea. Its not a hard concept to understand.

[Acidman]

Don't vote for Bush, he doesn't write things on his coloring pad.

Second,

I ****ING SHAT my pants when Kerry said he has had only one position on the war.

[Plucky]

Kerry seems like a idealist "We can have this, we can do this, while we can do this". I want to know where this money is coming from, and how is it going to be done.

[JC]

Also, George Bush has more vocal loops than Kanye West could only dream of.

[GHawk]

Bush's strategy is obvious:

Theme: flip flop, world is safer without saddam, doesnt support troops oh and

OMG WRONG WAR WRONG PLACE WRONG TIME.
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[JKiNG]

Kerry said he voted for going into Iraq, because Bush said he was going to go through certain steps before doing so, like setting up a good plan for going in, getting the job done, and an exit strategy, WITH a coalition including support from the UN. That didnt happen, that is why Kerry now says it was a bad idea. Its not a hard concept to understand.
At 1st Kerry did want to but now he dont bcuz of that idea.

[Plucky]

WITH a coalition including support from the UN. That didnt happen, that is why Kerry now says it was a bad idea. Its not a hard concept to understand.

Im sorry we need permission to protect our country.

[just]

Iraq was fine until bush attacked it..they people were adjusted to their way of life..if they want to overthrow the gov't, go ahead..i think they would rather live like that then be killed by mass bombs....the only reason bush attacked iraq was because of his dad and oil...no other reason..they never posed a threat or anything...now they just try to cover it up with these HIGH ALERT TERRORIST THREATS!!! yeah orange and yellow level my ass..

[GHawk]

Kerry seems like a idealist "We can have this, we can do this, while we can do this". I want to know where this money is coming from, and how is it going to be done.
imagine a candidate who... RAISES TAXES TO PAY FOR STUFF!!!!!!

[[PK]Richy]

Kerry said he voted for going into Iraq, because Bush said he was going to go through certain steps before doing so, like setting up a good plan for going in, getting the job done, and an exit strategy, WITH a coalition including support from the UN. That didnt happen, that is why Kerry now says it was a bad idea. Its not a hard concept to understand.

He agreed with the entire concept of going after Hussein in Iraq and not into Afghanistan after Bin Laden. Now he's preaching how wrong that is.

[[PK]Richy]

He's the definition of what would be called in the sports world a Monday morning quarterback.

He's a second guesser.

[JKiNG]

Kerry seems like a idealist "We can have this, we can do this, while we can do this". I want to know where this money is coming from, and how is it going to be done.
I trust Kerry to back up his word.

[Bright Eyes]

Im sorry we need permission to protect our country.

Yeah, protect us from the Iraqi's that were arriving by the boat load at Miami beach, right? Oh wait, Iraq never attacked us, didnt have any WMDs, or even threatened us. Oops!

[GHawk]

Im sorry we need permission to protect our country.
im sorry you still don't get the simple concept that...

IRAQ
WAS
NOT
A
THREAT
TO
US
AT
ALL

[MadDigital]

Kerry "I will provide better armor for the troops" something to that extent, didn't he vote against every weopan/upgrades for the military since the 80's?

[LoNgHoRn]

ok evry1 say who you would vote for if you could.

Bush

[[PK]Richy]

Wow, these guys are both ****ing morons. Why can't people wake up and not vote for either of them? Rich bastards shoving their **** down our throats.

[just]

im sorry you still don't get the simple concept that...

IRAQ
WAS
NOT
A
THREAT
TO
US
AT
ALL

once again for the bush supporters with no brains...bush doesnt care about "protecting the country" he just wants money and to control stuff.... iraq = people who dont have money and cant attack...i would be more scared of those crazy ****

[English_Warlords]

I love Kerry's answers. My plan is better than bush's. If we follow mine we will win.
What is your plan Kerry?

And that was funny when Bush just staired off at nothing for like 3 seconds.

[Acidman]

imagine a candidate who... RAISES TAXES TO PAY FOR STUFF!!!!!!
But doesn't he want to lower taxes?

[JKiNG]

I vote for Kerry.

[knox]

ok evry1 say who you would vote for if you could.

Bush

Why are you going to vote for Bush 'if you could' again?

Oh, you're from Texas. That's it.


Wait, also, him > Kerry, right?

[SocomsRush]

you must not be watching idiot.

No bush does sound like a moron about 95% of the time he speaks.

[just]

bush: "i know osama bin laden attacked us, i know that"

i bet he figured that one out on his own.......

[LoNgHoRn]

Why are you going to vote for Bush 'if you could' again?

Oh, you're from Texas. That's it.


Wait, also, him > Kerry, right?

ok that was jus stupid, no its not cuz i live in texas its b/c i know bush can finish what he started and kerry jus wants to do what the citizens say they want to do.

[GHawk]

But doesn't he want to lower taxes?
No, Kerry is raising taxes.

[MadDigital]

once again for the bush supporters with no brains...bush doesnt care about "protecting the country" he just wants money and to control stuff.... iraq = people who dont have money and cant attack...i would be more scared of those crazy ****



You have got to be kidding me...Al Queda has no money?

[SocomsRush]

this just in- Bush's notepad, from a secret camera:
http://playstationhq.net/stuff/images/bushnotes.jpg




(i sincerely hope you guys can take a joke.)

LOL..........

[PolishPanda]

Poor Bush. He has nothing to say and goes off topic.

I don't like how Kerry keeps talking about his 'plan' though. I haven't heard anything about what his plan exactly is, but then again I haven't been watching that long.

[Husker]

ok that was jus stupid, no its not cuz i live in texas its b/c i know bush can finish what he started and kerry jus wants to do what the citizens say they want to do.

Isn't that what you're supposed to do?

[MadDigital]

I vote for Kerry.


Your to young to vote maybe next time.

[JKiNG]

I'm out hope Bush Loses, and Kerry Wins.

[CAMO]

Check out this site. makes very interesting points. http://www.johnkerryisa******bagbutimvotingforh imanyway.com/

[Wankee]

Its hard work guys, its hard work.

[just]

You have got to be kidding me...Al Queda has no money?

uhh i said the iraqi people dont....

[just]

i Vote Kerry

[MadDigital]

uhh i said the iraqi people dont....


And where do the **** come in on this?

[stanMARSH]

If I could vote I would probably vote for Bush as of right now, but Kerry is completely pwning him in this debate, Kerry has answers and Bush doesn't know how to respond.

[[PK]Richy]

The only thing interesting about tonight's debate was:

A. Bush catching Kerry in flip-flopping again
B. Kerry's bull**** and his plan
C. Bush staring into space (rofl)
D. Bush looking like he wants to attack Kerry everytime he repeats himself
E. Bush changing the subject every question
F. Kerry making stupid claims and second guessing out the ass while contradicting himself in blatant stupidity
G. Ghawk's picture

[Noochsta]

John Kerry's plan...
Maybe this will help:
http://www.johnkerry.com/index.html

Sorry, you actually have to read.

[Plucky]

Kerry has no answers, all he is saying is "his plan". Those arent answers.

[SocomsRush]

I love Kerry's answers. My plan is better than bush's. If we follow mine we will win.
What is your plan Kerry?

And that was funny when Bush just staired off at nothing for like 3 seconds.

Kerry gave his plan.

[just]

And where do the **** come in on this?

:carrot: those crazy **** will get ya every time :carrot:

[Plucky]

He should explain his plan, and Bush could debate about it, but Bush is stuck cause kerry is saying "Plan Plan Plan".

[SocomsRush]

And I would vote Kerry.

[MadDigital]

I'm not a HUGE fan of Bush, but I just don't like Kerry at all..I wish Dean would be in Kerry's place to tell you the truth. One thing I noticed at the beggining Bush was asked "If Kerry gets elected into office do you think their would be a similar attack like 9/11?" he totally went onto something else and didn't answer the question at all. One thing I didn't like about Kerry was him brining up his service again like we didn't remember from the hundreds of other times hes said it :roll:

[[PK]Richy]

He's waiting for Bush to ask for his plan and Kerry will jump all over him with his bull****. Watch.

[SocomsRush]

He should explain his plan, and Bush could debate about it, but Bush is stuck cause kerry is saying "Plan Plan Plan".

His plan was pretty much what he voted for in the first place and that of which Bush didn't do.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

kerry's just in the debate to plug his website to sell t-shirts!

[just]

oh damn....kerry just owned him with that korean nuclear ****....bush is stutterin all over the place...LOL @ his stupid ass

[English_Warlords]

Kerry gave his plan.
I am sorry I must have missed it while he had his mouth around Osama's and Sadam's *****.


And it's nice to know that we have China on our side against North Korea, even though everyone else on these forums said otherwise, just shows how much people know.

[MadDigital]

i Vote Kerry


Sign here

_______________________

Thats as far as you can get.

[GHawk]

New Bush Policy: From now on, only engage in debates with Bill O'Reilly


plucky: you listening now? Or his he still not tlaking about his plan?

[English_Warlords]

oh damn....kerry just owned him with that korean nuclear ****....bush is stutterin all over the place...LOL @ his stupid ass
Um, Bush always stutters, he isn't exactlly the best public speaker. Also I like how Kerry lied about how he voted for some ****.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

oh damn....kerry just owned him with that korean nuclear ****....bush is stutterin all over the place...LOL @ his stupid ass

what, kerry doesn't want to invade iraq, but he wants to go against a country with nuclear weapons? lol

[English_Warlords]

New Bush Policy: From now on, only engage in debates with Bill O'Reilly


plucky: you listening now? Or his he still not tlaking about his plan?
Yea, atleast he won't be stuck trying to rebutle to my plan, my plan, my plan.

[GHawk]

what, kerry doesn't want to invade iraq, but he wants to go against a country with nuclear weapons? lol
.....OH MY ****ING GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ****ING PEOPLE JESUS CHRIST.



IRAQ. DOES. NOT. HAVE. NUCLEAR. WEAPONS. GET. THAT. THROUGH. YOUR. HEAD.

[D12]

lmfao @ bush changin the subject everytime he's given a topic.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

.....OH MY ****ING GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ****ING PEOPLE JESUS CHRIST.



IRAQ. DOES. NOT. HAVE. NUCLEAR. WEAPONS. GET. THAT. THROUGH. YOUR. HEAD.

no **** sherlock

[English_Warlords]

what, kerry doesn't want to invade iraq, but he wants to go against a country with nuclear weapons? lol
I know, it is funny. Let's attack the guys with nuclear weapons. Also, in a pole before the war, a question was asked on how many deaths would be expected/acceptable for the was,
I think it was around 5,000.

[SocomsRush]

.....OH MY ****ING GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ****ING PEOPLE JESUS CHRIST.



IRAQ. DOES. NOT. HAVE. NUCLEAR. WEAPONS. GET. THAT. THROUGH. YOUR. HEAD.

Some people are slow. Kinda like Bush. OMG Bush just said thats a loaded question. (Sry for the break in my reply, I just think Bush is ignorant as hell and should mention that.)

[GHawk]

no **** sherlock
then what was your point

[Plucky]

Yeah he finally said something, But those things costs money =|.

I dont want to raise taxes.

[English_Warlords]

.....OH MY ****ING GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ****ING PEOPLE JESUS CHRIST.



IRAQ. DOES. NOT. HAVE. NUCLEAR. WEAPONS. GET. THAT. THROUGH. YOUR. HEAD.
lol, too bad he said that kerry wanted to invade

NOTRH KOREA, WHICH DOES.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

iraq is a huge contry , they could have nuclear weapons buried in the ground somewhere, and what would you ppl say if he attacked America, you would blame bush for not following security reports

[foodbasics]

Bush is ****ing interupting Kerry. what a ****.

[Husker]

I'm tired of Bush basher, and I'm tired of Kerry bashers.

[Plucky]

Bush is ****ing interupting Kerry. what a ****.

lol @ you. I am sorry they have to be strict and cant have a little laugh.

[Bright Eyes]

Yeah he finally said something, But those things costs money =|.

I dont want to raise taxes.

He's been saying stuff all night but you were too busy making idiotic posts, then ignoring Ghawk's and my responses to them.

[D12]

wtf is a country with nuclear weapons gon do? Threaten us wit them? *** that, those morons over there prob dont even know what the *** they are for. Theres no need for ***in war, it aint gon settle shyt, all it's gon do it cause more controvoursy and hatred toward other countries, and we're the main target

[English_Warlords]

Bush is ****ing interupting Kerry. what a ****.
Because Kerry hasn't inturrupted Bush yet. Lol.

[SocomsRush]

iraq is a huge contry , they could have nuclear weapons buried in the ground somewhere, and what would you ppl say if he attacked America, you would blame bush for not following security reports

No I would blame the UN for not finding this out with their reports.

[Plucky]

wtf is a country with nuclear weapons gon do? Threaten us wit them? *** that, those morons over there prob dont even know what the *** they are for. Theres no need for ***in war, it aint gon settle shyt, all it's gon do it cause more controvoursy and hatred toward other countries, and we're the main target

Anyone who can't spell controversy does not have a right to a opinion.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

anyone watch the part where kerry said bush didn't get armor for the soilders, but kerry voted against giving them better armor, lol

[Husker]

wtf is a country with nuclear weapons gon do? Threaten us wit them? *** that, those morons over there prob dont even know what the *** they are for. Theres no need for ***in war, it aint gon settle shyt, all it's gon do it cause more controvoursy and hatred toward other countries, and we're the main target

Shut the **** up.

[GHawk]

guys there is alot of pressure in this president job thingy, ok :(

[[PK]Richy]

LMAO @ Bush. He looks like he wants to choke the **** out of Kerry. He looked like he was in pain when he smiled and laughed and said thank you to Kerry.

[English_Warlords]

No I would blame the UN for not finding this out with their reports.
Maybe becuase Sadam was dicking around the whole time and not helping out the inspectors, and killing a few.

[Bright Eyes]

iraq is a huge contry , they could have nuclear weapons buried in the ground somewhere, and what would you ppl say if he attacked America, you would blame bush for not following security reports

1. You cant make nuclear weapons in caves, nuclear weapon programs leave evidence, both phsyical as well as paperwork that would have been found.

2. Iraq is not a huge country.

3. He wouldnt attack America with nukes, his whole country would be destroyed within minutes.

[D12]

Anyone who can't spell controversy does not have a right to a opinion.
sorry i dont have a spell check, and i can care less how i spell shyt, u know what? WE do need more teachers in the U.S. Y dont u volunteer.

[GHawk]

Anyone who can't spell controversy does not have a right to a opinion.
Hm. You supporting Bush is starting to make sense.

[MadDigital]

anyone watch the part where kerry said bush didn't get armor for the soilders, but kerry voted against giving them better armor, lol

Yep, posted that a few pages ago. Hes voted against it since the 80's

[SocomsRush]

Maybe becuase Sadam was dicking around the whole time and not helping out the inspectors, and killing a few.

Wouldn't we have intellegence of this?

[English_Warlords]

1. You cant make nuclear weapons in caves, nuclear weapon programs leave evidence, both phsyical as well as paperwork that would have been found.

2. Iraq is not a huge country.

3. He wouldnt attack America with nukes, his whole country would be destroyed within minutes.
But if a terrorist group gets a hold of one of these facilities then bye bye DC, bye bye New York.

[MadDigital]

A question to all, would your vote be changed if Dean was in Kerrys place? Mine would be, Dean came off as a great person to me, all his values were just what I thought would be perect.

[Bright Eyes]

Anyone who can't spell controversy does not have a right to a opinion.

Anyone that doesn't know that "an" must come before a word beginning with a vowel does not have a right to an opinion. :roll:

[English_Warlords]

Wouldn't we have intellegence of this?
It is called watch the news when they were inspecting and notice how inspectors were being killed in bombings.

[JVO]

Not watching the debate.. but im a supporter of Bush..

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

1. You cant make nuclear weapons in caves, nuclear weapon programs leave evidence, both phsyical as well as paperwork that would have been found.

2. Iraq is not a huge country.

3. He wouldnt attack America with nukes, his whole country would be destroyed within minutes.

i doubt they would care since they would die for what they believe

go walk around iraq , how many days is it gonna take you, make sure you cover EVERY spot in it

[Bright Eyes]

But if a terrorist group gets a hold of one of these facilities then bye bye DC, bye bye New York.

Yep, cool thing that Iraq didn't have any!

[SocomsRush]

Anyone that doesn't know that "an" must come before a word beginning with a vowel does not have a right to an opinion. :roll:

It's so true.

[D12]

But if a terrorist group gets a hold of one of these facilities then bye bye DC, bye bye New York.
that would never happen....... it would be Bye Bye Terrorists

[English_Warlords]

Yep, cool thing that Iraq didn't have any!
I feel safer knowing that, and knowing that Sadam is no longer in power.

[GHawk]

i doubt they would care since they would die for what they believe
ALL IRAQIS AND MUSLIMS AND ARABS = EXTREMIST MUSLIMS LIKE BIN LADEN

[JVO]

by the way, **** politics.. im too young to vote anyways :)

[English_Warlords]

that would never happen....... it would be Bye Bye Terrorists
Just like we said bye bye to those terr on the planes during sept 11? They do like to do suicide missions, dumb ****. Get some group of radicals to grab one and launch it.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

i think we're all talking and missing the debate.

[D12]

i always hated this political shyt, but i got my history class for 1st period and i guess im startin to pay more attention in some ways........... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[MasturbaterNV]

ALL IRAQIS AND MUSLIMS AND ARABS = EXTREMIST MUSLIMS LIKE BIN LADEN


That's a little too radical of a statement there G-Hawk. not all arabs are evil as you say they are.

[Bright Eyes]

I feel safer knowing that, and knowing that Sadam is no longer in power.

Well I guess that all those people being killed for no reason is ok, as long as some 16 year old in America typing on his Dad's PC feels safer, even though there was no threat in the first place.

[Bright Eyes]

That's a little too radical of a statement there G-Hawk. not all arabs are evil as you say they are.

He was being sarcastic.

[English_Warlords]

That's a little too radical of a statement there G-Hawk. not all arabs are evil as you say they are.
I think GHawk has blown a vessil up by his brain and has gone pysco on us.

[just]

iraq is a huge contry , they could have nuclear weapons buried in the ground somewhere, and what would you ppl say if he attacked America, you would blame bush for not following security reports

ur a ****ing tard...Canada is huge too but u dont go bombing it...

[MasturbaterNV]

He was being sarcastic.


Well sarcasm cannot be easily pointed out on the internet... especially when CAPS mean severity in statement.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

Well I guess that all those people being killed for no reason is ok, as long as some 16 year old in America typing on his Dad's PC feels safer, even though there was no threat in the first place.

well i'm glad that you get all the security reports and can tell us that there was no threat :thumb:

[GHawk]

I think GHawk has blown a vessil up by his brain and has gone pysco on us.
no, i refer to it as sarcasm. But some of these posters may drive me to insanity here pretty quick.

[D12]

Just like we said bye bye to those terr on the planes during sept 11? They do like to do suicide missions, dumb ****. Get some group of radicals to grab one and launch it.
no shyt............. they're kamakazies, they can care less if they die. I'm sayin wit the securtity we have right now, they wouldnt be able to hit soil if they wanted to. But those guys r crazy so they might find a way. Just like down here, we got a notice that a terrorist snuck through mexico and is somewhere in our city. But the funny thing is that if we see him, we're allowed to shoot.

[SocomsRush]

Just like we said bye bye to those terr on the planes during sept 11? They do like to do suicide missions, dumb ****. Get some group of radicals to grab one and launch it.

We usually can detect most missiles/bombs incoming to us. Now planes and so on before 9/11 was a new concept and was never heard of. We have expanded our thought as a nation on terrorist attacks and are much more prepared then what we were before 9/11.

[Husker]

Well sarcasm cannot be easily pointed out on the internet... especially when CAPS mean severity in statement.

You're an idiot.

[English_Warlords]

Well I guess that all those people being killed for no reason is ok, as long as some 16 year old in America typing on his Dad's PC feels safer, even though there was no threat in the first place.
Yes, we went into Iraq for no reason, and we just grabbed random people and shot them, and our people were all on vacation and just got killed.

Mr. Big Guy in his 20's typing on a P.C.

[Bright Eyes]

well i'm glad that you get all the security reports and can tell us that there was no threat :thumb:

Yeah, I have insider information, there's this one site, www.cnn.com, it gives you all the current events. Through that secret site I found out that no nuclear weapons have been found.

[D12]

ok, i havent been into the news lately, but can someone give me a brief summary about the new beheadings that took place? The reason?

[pmcd95]

Kerry speaking is like a 10yr old jacking off, hes doin the motion, but nutting is coming out.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

Yeah, I have insider information, there's this one site, www.cnn.com, it gives you all the current events. Through that secret site I found out that no nuclear weapons have been found.

yep, im glad cnn knows that there's no threat, i mean, who would think that maybe sadam would send ppl to america and might have them commit terrorist acts

[English_Warlords]

Yeah, I have insider information, there's this one site, www.cnn.com, it gives you all the current events. Through that secret site I found out that no nuclear weapons have been found.
Really? You did. Just because we didn't see them, doesn't mean they weren't there.

[Reidy]

Bookie, just a note;

Quit while you're far, far behind.

[MasturbaterNV]

Yeah, I have insider information, there's this one site, www.cnn.com, it gives you all the current events. Through that secret site I found out that no nuclear weapons have been found.

How trustworthy is CNN as opposed to CBS?

[just]

ok, i havent been into the news lately, but can someone give me a brief summary about the new beheadings that took place? The reason?

i think the most reason was they captured 3...beheaded 2 americans because they wanted the women like "dr germ" lol at name.......to be freed..and they werent...then the british guy was left...dunno if they killed him though? :shaking:

[JC]

Again, the stupidity of Bush supporters doesn't fail to amuse me.

[GHawk]

countdown until god bless america

[Reidy]

Really? You did. Just because we didn't see them, doesn't mean they weren't there.

Just because you have a brain doesn't mean you use it.

[MasturbaterNV]

Again, the stupidity of Bush supporters doesn't fail to amuse me.


I'm not a bush supporter, nor a kerry supporter, but i quietly and furiously masturbate to Badnarik's debates at night. :shifty:

[English_Warlords]

Hmm, is that a plan I hear, oh wait, it is only Bush. I am still waiting for this 'plan' of Kerry's that is sooo much better than Bush's.

[SocomsRush]

yep, im glad cnn knows that there's no threat, i mean, who would think that maybe sadam would send ppl to america and might have them commit terrorist acts

I'm glad you don't trust Bush's plan on homeland security then.

[Bright Eyes]

Sigh.. you don't understand. If Iraq had a nuclear weapons program, there would be evidence of it. They cannot make nuclear weapons in caves, in tents, or mobile homes. They need factories set up, funding, papertrails would be left, the **** they need takes years to prepare. If they didnt find any, they dont exist.

[English_Warlords]

Just because you have a brain doesn't mean you use it.
Just because you have a keyboard and a mouse, doesn't mean what you type and submit have any relivance.

[SocomsRush]

And God has now blessed our land.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

Sigh.. you don't understand. If Iraq had a nuclear weapons program, there would be evidence of it. They cannot make nuclear weapons in caves, in tents, or mobile homes. They need factories set up, funding, papertrails would be left, the **** they need takes years to prepare. If they didnt find any, they dont exist.

your right, they cant buy them from other countries and import them in or anythin like that

[English_Warlords]

countdown until god bless america
:shifty: I didn't hear it. Did I miss it?

[pmcd95]

Kerry speaking is like a 10yr old jacking off, hes doin the motion, but nutting is coming out.
that pmcd95 is so funny

[SocomsRush]

:shifty: I didn't hear it. Did I miss it?

Yes you did.

[GHawk]

Bush got raped, without lube, Kerry destroyed him.

[MasturbaterNV]

countdown until god bless america


that's MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR GREAT LAND to you G-Hawk.

You = owned :dance:

[D12]

Sigh.. you don't understand. If Iraq had a nuclear weapons program, there would be evidence of it. They cannot make nuclear weapons in caves, in tents, or mobile homes. They need factories set up, funding, papertrails would be left, the **** they need takes years to prepare. If they didnt find any, they dont exist.
exactly............. it's called threats, just like when i guy walks into a store and robs it, he has his hand in his pocket and acts like its a gun, its the same way the damn iraqies r acting.

[YoungGunna]

Bush got raped, without lube, Kerry destroyed him.
That still won't change the outcome of the elections, IMO.

[English_Warlords]

Yes you did.
Damn, my step-dad was cussing like the world was about to end, damn. I am sad now. :crying:

[just]

your right, they cant buy them from other countries and import them in or anythin like that

bookie u obviously dont know anything about anything...so shut the **** up :hand:

[cash2trump]

This is the play by play...I fuggin' missed it. Stupid volleyball game.

[SocomsRush]

Bush got raped, without lube, Kerry destroyed him.

It was destined from the start.

[IamTHEBOOKIE]

I'm done here, you can't change someone's mind when they're set on somthing

[SocomsRush]

I'm done here, you can't change someone's mind when they're set on somthing

You should know.

[Bright Eyes]

I'm done here, you can't change someone's mind when they're set on somthing

Or using ******ed logic with no facts backing it up.

[English_Warlords]

Bush got raped, without lube, Kerry destroyed him.
I think Bush had better facts, but delivered them like some kid who has never spoken to a large audience before. Kerry delievered his 'plan' a lot more smoother but didn't as many key points as Bush. So I say it was a draw.

[MasturbaterNV]

I'm done here, you can't change someone's mind when they're set on somthing

Bookie is right, if you're perverted and you want ot have sex, you will stop at nothing, even if that means rape or molestion.

[GHawk]

I think Bush had better facts, but delivered them like some kid who has never spoken to a large audience before. Kerry delievered his 'plan' a lot more smoother but didn't as many key points as Bush. So I say it was a draw.
wow, just wow. Bush hardly had any facts...bush's arguement was...

FLIP FLOPPER
YOU DONT SUPPORT TROOPS
FLIP FLOPPER

[MadDigital]

Or using ******ed logic with no facts backing it up.


Whats the point, 90% of the responses to a Bush voter is "The Bush supporters never seem to amaze me" or in more realistic terms of this site "OMFG AT BUSH IDIOTS LOL".

[MasturbaterNV]

why the **** is it everytime i post it's the last one on the **** page :doh:

[Husker]

Whats the point, 90% of the responses to a Bush voter is "The Bush supporters never seem to amaze me" or in more realistic terms of this site "OMFG AT BUSH IDIOTS LOL".

Because the majority of Bush supporters on this site are ****ing stupid.

The majority of Kerry supporters are to.

[English_Warlords]

wow, just wow. Bush hardly had any facts...bush's arguement was...

FLIP FLOPPER
YOU DONT SUPPORT TROOPS
FLIP FLOPPER
And Kerry had.

My 'plan' is better than yours.
If we follow my 'plan' then we will do better.
My 'plan' is the uber leet plan.
In Vietnam...
^^^^(well, that's nice, what did you do in the Senate?)

[SocomsRush]

Because the majority of Bush supporters on this site are ****ing stupid.

The majority of Kerry supporters are to.

Not really, I feel that ghawk and I made legit responses.

[Husker]

Not really, I feel that ghawk and I made legit responses.

To bad G-Hawk isn't a Kerry supporter.

[GHawk]

And Kerry had.

My 'plan' is better than yours.
If we follow my 'plan' then we will do better.
My 'plan' is the uber leet plan.
In Vietnam...
^^^^(well, that's nice, what did you do in the Senate?)
did you even watch the debate? I'm dead serious. Are you deliberately ignoring him? He detailed his plan multiple times. He said exactly what Bush did wrong, and what he would or will do. What do you want?

[SocomsRush]

To bad G-Hawk isn't a Kerry supporter.

I didn't say what type of supporter he or I are, I just said we made legit responses to what was said on the debate.

[Husker]

Kerry beat bush, I don't see how you guys can miss that.

And as for the "plan" thing.

He told what Bush's problems were and what he would do instead numerous times.